>> ^gwiz665: I agree with marinara, it's a shame that there was dupeof in this instance. It's impossible to reinstante the votes as they were now, but at least the other one could be unkilled and go by its own merits. Alternatively, you can post it again, marinara.
Yup, and PLoS is proving that decent quality control and open access can both be had by the same journals.
...ok PLoS, I put in a plug for you; now stop rejecting my manuscripts without review!
>> ^cybrbeast: ..can't really blame armchair scientists for not checking out scientific literature. Because most of that is only accessible at high price or via university subscriptions (at very high cost for the university). We need science to go into public journals...
^Yeah, I get that gwiz (and others) think somehow this mandatory tipping thing happens with every meal purchase in the States and done so to bamboozle the customer with hidden charges when the check arrives.
I have tried to illustrate, however ineffectively, that this is not the case, and that this is an agreed upon service charge (mandatory tip) before the patron begins his dining experience.
It seems like you guys are arguing somewhat different things here, which may be why this exchange has turned a bit sour.
Reading Blankfist's posts, it appears he's arguing that in this specific case the restaurant was in the right. Seeing as how the extra charge was clearly made known to these customers well before they ordered their meal, I'm 100% in agreement that they're liable to pay their bill, regardless of the service they received. However, what Gwiz seemed to be arguing is the theoretical scenario in which a restaurant adds a charge without telling the customer beforehand, effectively tricking the customer into a situation where they have to pay more than was advertised and therefore not giving the customer the chance to take their business elsewhere. If I got that right I'm in 100% agreement with Gwiz aswell.
The key word here is communication. A restaurant has the right to add whatever charge it likes, aswell as raise their prices as much as they like. I've no problem with paying an extra 18%, so long as the restaurant has made it clear that this is their practice. This can be done with a note in their menu, a few words from a staff member or whatever. Knowing that there is an extra 18% charge on top of the total price gives the customer the opportunity to decide whether or not to eat there. But getting a table, ordering the food, eating it and getting the bill before finding out this extra expenditure is not acceptable business practice in my opinion.
>> ^TangledThorns: Obama better wise up as his actual approval polls are hitting below 50% while Sarah Palin's are rising. The way this fool is running the country into the ground I expect a President Sarah Palin to save us from his huge mistakes.
Aaahahahahaa.
Oh wait, you were serious? Let me laugh even harder.
Sorry, I do like the easter eggs that Pixar put into movies, but these were pretty poorly done.
This MAY have been funny if they slowly ramped up how obvious and ridiculous the 'easter eggs' were, but as it stands, it's just pretty crap
Removed from the Lies channel. Have you done the work to know that some of the easter eggs at the end are phony? Just because you think it's obvious doesn't make it so. Maybe the easter eggs at end are fake, but it's still too soon to conclusively prove that.
I agree with marinara, it's a shame that there was dupeof in this instance. It's impossible to reinstante the votes as they were now, but at least the other one could be unkilled and go by its own merits. Alternatively, you can post it again, marinara.
Just calling out your bullshit editorializing, chuggo. Your opinion is no more valid than his, yet you act as though you somehow are more in touch with what's REALLY going on in the world than the rest of us. "Linear thinking," I believe you call it. Same old same old, chugs. Nothing new under the sun, especially from you.
Deep-seated frustration and unresolved rage? Project much?
When you order food are you not agreeing on the price for services and goods (without signing a contract)? And it should clearly marked on the menu (and sometimes by the hostess station or on the wall) 'for parties of x or more a y percent gratuity is added'.
Therefore The gratuity is agreed upon before you order. The princes and princesses in this video most likely were well aware of this but made up their mind to protest because their napkins weren't on the table when their food arrives. That's not bad service. That's a simple oversight that would've been easily rectified if given the opportunity instead of them showing their butts.
I don't personally agree with mandatory gratuity, but it exists, and if I agree to eat at the restaurant with a large party, I have to pay for it. Or I could move to a "make better society".
Woodpecker Versus Snake
CCTV: King County sheriff's deputy assaulting 15 yr old girl
I agree with marinara, it's a shame that there was dupeof in this instance. It's impossible to reinstante the votes as they were now, but at least the other one could be unkilled and go by its own merits. Alternatively, you can post it again, marinara.
if i can't get the votes i'll just *return
H2oil Animated Sequences
That is where I live. Sorry all!
How do people in Alberta feel about the environmental aspects of the oil sands generally?
Ut. Sen: No Gays Stuffing it Down His Throat All The Time
Urban myths about climate change
...ok PLoS, I put in a plug for you; now stop rejecting my manuscripts without review!
>> ^cybrbeast:
..can't really blame armchair scientists for not checking out scientific literature. Because most of that is only accessible at high price or via university subscriptions (at very high cost for the university).
We need science to go into public journals...
Couple Arrested for Not Paying Tip
I have tried to illustrate, however ineffectively, that this is not the case, and that this is an agreed upon service charge (mandatory tip) before the patron begins his dining experience.
Eklek
In reply to this comment by Eklek:
*promote
Brothers- Trailer
France cheats its way into World Cup
Sarah Palin Fans: Not That Bright
UsesProzac
Couple Arrested for Not Paying Tip
Reading Blankfist's posts, it appears he's arguing that in this specific case the restaurant was in the right. Seeing as how the extra charge was clearly made known to these customers well before they ordered their meal, I'm 100% in agreement that they're liable to pay their bill, regardless of the service they received.
However, what Gwiz seemed to be arguing is the theoretical scenario in which a restaurant adds a charge without telling the customer beforehand, effectively tricking the customer into a situation where they have to pay more than was advertised and therefore not giving the customer the chance to take their business elsewhere. If I got that right I'm in 100% agreement with Gwiz aswell.
The key word here is communication. A restaurant has the right to add whatever charge it likes, aswell as raise their prices as much as they like. I've no problem with paying an extra 18%, so long as the restaurant has made it clear that this is their practice. This can be done with a note in their menu, a few words from a staff member or whatever. Knowing that there is an extra 18% charge on top of the total price gives the customer the opportunity to decide whether or not to eat there. But getting a table, ordering the food, eating it and getting the bill before finding out this extra expenditure is not acceptable business practice in my opinion.
Obama on Palin's Rating of his Presidency
Obama better wise up as his actual approval polls are hitting below 50% while Sarah Palin's are rising. The way this fool is running the country into the ground I expect a President Sarah Palin to save us from his huge mistakes.
Aaahahahahaa.
Oh wait, you were serious? Let me laugh even harder.
AAAHH HA HAHAHAHA!!
Gameheadz: A Video Game History TV Documentary
Sarah Palin Fans: Not That Bright
I've said it before and I'll say it again: I challenge the sift to post a video that shows Sarah Palin in a positive light.
Why should we? No one would vote for it.
Couple Arrested for Not Paying Tip
Pixar's Hidden Secrets - Easter eggs in their films
lies, and pretty lame ones at that.
Sorry, I do like the easter eggs that Pixar put into movies, but these were pretty poorly done.
This MAY have been funny if they slowly ramped up how obvious and ridiculous the 'easter eggs' were, but as it stands, it's just pretty crap
Removed from the Lies channel. Have you done the work to know that some of the easter eggs at the end are phony? Just because you think it's obvious doesn't make it so. Maybe the easter eggs at end are fake, but it's still too soon to conclusively prove that.
CCTV: King County sheriff's deputy assaulting 15 yr old girl
TYT: Sarah Palin is still stupid
Deep-seated frustration and unresolved rage? Project much?
Couple Arrested for Not Paying Tip
When you order food are you not agreeing on the price for services and goods (without signing a contract)? And it should clearly marked on the menu (and sometimes by the hostess station or on the wall) 'for parties of x or more a y percent gratuity is added'.
Therefore The gratuity is agreed upon before you order. The princes and princesses in this video most likely were well aware of this but made up their mind to protest because their napkins weren't on the table when their food arrives. That's not bad service. That's a simple oversight that would've been easily rectified if given the opportunity instead of them showing their butts.
I don't personally agree with mandatory gratuity, but it exists, and if I agree to eat at the restaurant with a large party, I have to pay for it. Or I could move to a "make better society".