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The Smoker and the Automatic Sprinkler System

budzos says...

When we were cleaning out an office that had belonged to my family, my bro-in-law pretty much insisted on lighting up a cigarette *right underneath* a no-smoking sign, a smoke detector, and a sprinkler head. It's the one time I ever put my foot down with my bro-in-law, who is older, and said you are not going to fucking smoke that thing in here and have my family sued by the insurance company (or worse, have the insurance claim denied because that can happen when you contravene posted warnings).

Hippo Attack in Okavango Delta

00Scud00 says...

Hippos are deceptive like that, they look like big docile cows but they're actually quite aggressive, do not fuck with hippos. And definitely never stand behind hippos, unless you like standing in shit sprinklers, mother nature's own wide dispersal fertilizer delivery system.

Crazy Sprinkler Lady

Sprinkler Rainbow Conspiracy

Sprinkler Rainbow Conspiracy

Sprinkler Rainbow Conspiracy

FedEx Guy Going To Be Looking For A New Job

Yogi says...

>> ^budzos:

They left a $4200 (+tax) software delivery (IE they basically delivered a card with a serial # on it) sitting on the floor in the hallway outside my apartment as it was a copy of the local coupon rag.
From the same experience, I'll also never give any more money to:
3VIZ Software (Canadian distributor of Autodesk.. based on my dealings with them I'd be surprised if they're still in business... bunch of fuck-heads they are).
Autodesk (Makers of 3DS MAX... pick terrible distributors and now call me every four months to harass me about costly upgrades and "subscriptions" that I'll never buy.)(also consistently set deadlines for the upgrades and subscriptions that are totally imaginary).
FUCK YOU UPS
FUCK YOU 3VIZ
EAT A FUCKING COCK AUTODESK
>> ^Yogi:
>> ^budzos:
Something in this vein happened with UPS almost three years ago and it still makes me so fucking mad when I think about it... I will never use UPS again. Fuck you UPS you useless cunts.

One time a UPS delivery girl dropped off my package and as I watched her from the window, her not noticing, she walked by my sprinklers which were on and saw one was broken. She bent down and fiddled with it for a good 30 seconds until it was fixed and sprayed correctly, I thought that was the sweetest thing ever.



They must like me because I'm such a pleasant person...staring at them through my window like a creeper.

FedEx Guy Going To Be Looking For A New Job

Yogi says...

>> ^budzos:

Something in this vein happened with UPS almost three years ago and it still makes me so fucking mad when I think about it... I will never use UPS again. Fuck you UPS you useless cunts.


One time a UPS delivery girl dropped off my package and as I watched her from the window, her not noticing, she walked by my sprinklers which were on and saw one was broken. She bent down and fiddled with it for a good 30 seconds until it was fixed and sprayed correctly, I thought that was the sweetest thing ever.

"Building 7" Explained

marinara says...

>> ^Ryjkyj:

I think the main point of this video, which wasn't explained very clearly, is that the water resources would've been stretched to the max. Fighting so many fires in such a large area at the end of Manhattan could potentially have made the building's sprinkler/standpipe system practically worthless. I'm surprised they didn't stress that point. But I think that's what they mean by saying that no building like that ever burned "uncontrollably". That's what makes it a unique situation.
I'm not sure how old building seven was but I used to be a project manager for a major construction firm in NYC. And I can tell you that the fireproofing regs have changed a lot over the years. Not to mention, NYC's department of buildings is huge, and there's not a lot of checks and balances. If you know what you're doing, you can get an examiner to ignore just about anything. And people either make mistakes, or intentionally bypass the building code all the time. Especially the big companies who build the big buildings. The bigger and older your company is, the more you can get away with.
That's the first time I've ever heard of/seen that penthouse footage as well. I'm not an engineer but I think that was pretty compelling.


http://www.dykon-blasting.com/faqs.htm#implode
In a controlled demolition, the interior structures are removed first, in order to make the building fall inward. This video frames this fact as being against the theory of controlled demolition. How misleading.

Also this video compares a tanker truck fire to an office fire. Still need for someone to explain how a burning stack of coffee filters generates the same heat as a truck filled with 9000 gallons of fuel.

"Building 7" Explained

Ryjkyj says...

I think the main point of this video, which wasn't explained very clearly, is that the water resources would've been stretched to the max. Fighting so many fires in such a large area at the end of Manhattan could potentially have made the building's sprinkler/standpipe system practically worthless. I'm surprised they didn't stress that point. But I think that's what they mean by saying that no building like that ever burned "uncontrollably". That's what makes it a unique situation.

I'm not sure how old building seven was but I used to be a project manager for a major construction firm in NYC. And I can tell you that the fireproofing regs have changed a lot over the years. Not to mention, NYC's department of buildings is huge, and there's not a lot of checks and balances. If you know what you're doing, you can get an examiner to ignore just about anything. And people either make mistakes, or intentionally bypass the building code all the time. Especially the big companies who build the big buildings. The bigger and older your company is, the more you can get away with.

That's the first time I've ever heard of/seen that penthouse footage as well. I'm not an engineer but I think that was pretty compelling.

Your Yard Is EVIL

rychan says...

>> ^spoco2:

@rychan My response is mostly due to you saying that you water that much of the year as if it's low. If that is considered low in the States then that's terrible. And they're electrical sprinkler too... 2 and a half hours of watering every morning is a HUGE amount of water, that's just insane.
Do you catch public transport to work? I live about 30Km from work, and walk to the station and then train in.


We get plenty of rain here -- our groundwater levels aren't dropping, our lakes aren't draining. The water I use on my lawn isn't washing away with any chemicals (it's not washing away at all -- I don't overwater). I don't see what your objection is to drawing the water out of the ground instead of building a basin for it, other than the increased electrical demands. But as I said, I don't think those electrical demands are ridiculous.

There is no public transit near my house.

Your Yard Is EVIL

spoco2 says...

@rychan My response is mostly due to you saying that you water that much of the year as if it's low. If that is considered low in the States then that's terrible. And they're electrical sprinkler too... 2 and a half hours of watering every morning is a HUGE amount of water, that's just insane.

Do you catch public transport to work? I live about 30Km from work, and walk to the station and then train in.

Your Yard Is EVIL

rychan says...

>> ^spoco2:

>> ^rychan:
I only have to run my sprinkler system about three months a year.

Holy frack! You have to use sprinklers on your lawn for a QUARTER OF THE YEAR and you think that's fine?
Do you people in the states have any concept of low impact? It truly is stunning... I mean, we here in Australia are pretty damn f cked up too, but we're trying...
What about fricken rainwater tanks? All new houses built in Australia require them now... and guess what? They give you heaps of water for watering any lawn you may want or your veggie patch or your fruit trees, or your small wheat crop.


Geesh, calm down. We actually have a shared rainwater tank here -- the groundwater that I already mentioned.

I calculated the electrical cost of running my sprinklers, and it came to 5 or 6 dollars a month. So yes, there's some carbon impact.

When I say 3 months a year, I don't mean 3 months of continuous operation, you realize? It's 2 and half hours every morning. In the Fall and Spring the grass doesn't need watering, and in the Winter it's under snow.

Anyway, if you want to yell at me for not being low impact, do so because I live 20 miles from work. I don't want to, but I don't have a choice.

Actually, I'm curious about your electrical consumption since you're shaming me for mine. I live in a state with one of the lowest per-capita carbon emission rates. I have aggressively programmed electronic thermostats and compact fluorescent lights. I run my air conditioner only about 30 days out of the year. I wonder if you're not actually living a higher impact lifestyle by trying to live in an arid area?

Your Yard Is EVIL

spoco2 says...

>> ^rychan:

I only have to run my sprinkler system about three months a year.


Holy frack! You have to use sprinklers on your lawn for a QUARTER OF THE YEAR and you think that's fine?

Do you people in the states have any concept of low impact? It truly is stunning... I mean, we here in Australia are pretty damn f*cked up too, but we're trying...

What about fricken rainwater tanks? All new houses built in Australia require them now... and guess what? They give you heaps of water for watering any lawn you may want or your veggie patch or your fruit trees, or your small wheat crop.

Your Yard Is EVIL

NinjaInHeat says...

EVIL THY NAME IS RYCHAN!

>> ^rychan:

I like my lawn
I don't use pesticides. I draw water from my well, not a municipal water supply. Groundwater levels are not threatened here and I only have to run my sprinkler system about three months a year. So, I don't think it's a huge time or resource sink.
I'm not sure we would be able to enjoy the space around my house without a lawn. I'm not about to plant an acre worth of vegetables -- 400 square feet is plenty for me. If I just let it grow naturally then it would be impassable waist high scrub in a year. I guess it might be interesting to only mow a small fraction of my yard and seed wildflowers in the rest. Not everyone in my neighborhood mows their entire yard regularly.



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