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My question to atheists: Why fruit? (Science Talk Post)

MarineGunrock says...

At least you didn't believe in an invisible sky-daddy.
>> ^gorillaman:

>> ^MarineGunrock:
Haha, oh, how I was a fucking idiot just a few years ago. Hooray indoctrination!

Yeah I tend to look at about four years ago as the time I stopped being a fucktard. And no matter how old I get, I always seem to have been a fucktard four years earlier.

My question to atheists: Why fruit? (Science Talk Post)

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George Carlin on Child Worship

MarineGunrock says...

You mean how kids have weaker immune systems because parents are over-sanitizing everything?


>> ^kymbos:

I'm yet to see any evidence that telling kids they're special has any measurable negative impacts. I can accept it's bullshit, but I think the suggestion that it's harmful is precisely just as much bullshit. If someone can point to any evidence beyond the rantings of cranky old men, I'd love to see it.

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Ron Paul: "If it's an honest rape..."

MarineGunrock says...

I don't think you quite understand the mechanics of conception... Just because there's semen in a woman doesn't mean she's conceived. Emergency contraceptives are no different than birth control. They prevent conception from happening. >> ^Porksandwich:

>> ^CaptainPlanet:
>> ^Porksandwich:
I never took the person's pulse before I stabbed them, so you can't prove they were alive. So it's not murder.
Can't eliminate all grey areas under a law, because you need to make an exemption for when someone you know or a big donator needs to skate on something. IE his daughter or grand-daughter gets pregnant by a black man.

a guess your joking, but i don't get it. if your trying to imply that abortion is murder i have to agree, but its a stretch to say that we live in a society that never condones murder.... actually i think your just being an idiot

Ron Paul states that he believes life begins at conception. And prior to this he says that there is no chemical, medical, legal evidence of a pregnancy when administering the treatment to stop the progression of possible conception.
I liken that to saying that you could justify murder by arguing that you have no reason to believe the guy didn't die of natural causes a split second before he was shot/stabbed/ran over. So while it would have been murder, you can't 100% prove due to lack of chemical, medical and legal evidence that he was expired mere seconds before I would have killed him. So at best I stabbed/shot/ran over a corpse that hadn't hit the ground yet.
And I agree, that does sound idiotic.
In the case of someone having a natural death right before something that would have otherwise killed them, they would argue that you intended to kill the guy and ended all chances of him being saved from the natural causes (heart attack, brain bleed, whatever) by your actions. It's more about the intent. If you are giving someone drugs/treatments to abort or prevent any possible pregnancy after the fact, your intent is clear. If you were pregnant you aborted it, if you were not the treatment was unnecessary....but the intent was still the same.
It's an argument basically boils down to: It's an abortion, only if you can prove they were pregnant. But there is no other reason to perform it besides the chance of pregnancy. So why is it not abortion/attempted abortion when the intent is there? And how can he say life begins at conception, but then do these procedures that are designed to prevent or end conceptions before they are legally, medically, and chemically provable?

It's a half joking, devil's advocate kind of argument. We don't give our ages from the day we were conceived, but we definitely begin life prior to our "birth day". So there needs to be a upper limit instated by law, and a general understanding that the doctors and clinics should make sure all information and choices are presented before doing anything permanent. It should definitely not be a spur of the moment choice, where a patient can walk in to a doctor with no previous discussion and say they want an abortion and have it carried out with no information to other options. Once presented with the options, and as long as it's under the legal time limit window, then I don't think anyone can say it should have been any other way than the people involved in it.
I don't technically have a problem with what Ron Paul is saying here, but he states something contrary to his own beliefs. 7 months is probably too far along, the kid could probably survive outside of the mother's body at that point. But if he believes birth begins at conception, doing things to prevent conception that ALSO ends conception and justifying it as no medical/legal/chemical proof of conception....that's just hypocritical.
That kind of grey area lurking to satiate the need for abortions, but still sticking to your hardline statements is chicken shit justification.

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how to verify military service (Mystery Talk Post)

MarineGunrock says...

The easiest way is to ask him if he has any pictures from his unit. That's just something you can't fake. He still may be lying about decorations and awards received, though. Guys who lie about medals and ribbons usually haven't served and they're easier to catch, but sometimes real vets will lie about shit like that to seem cooler.

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