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Mentally Challenged Man Beaten to Death

posted by nomino 3 months 1 week ago • 7707 views
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"In a shocking discovery, this brutal and graphic video has just not been posted to the internet. It is a video supposedly taken from December of 1984 in which Bobby J Blythe, a karate "master instructs his student to brutally beat an individual who is seriously mentally ill. This man was later discovered dead in a dumpster and Blythe was never charged.

The instructor Bobby J Blythe had this to say about the incident:

'This dummy was in my shopping center while I was on a Bodyguard Job in Washington, DC. This guy was in the Pizza Hut eating pizza off the plates of others and the Pizza Hut Manager ran him out with a pistol. Later the very same day, police officers were called to remove him from a nearby pharmacy after having been caught reaching into customer's purses. A short time after that, he visited a Napa Auto Parts store next to my Karate Dojo and told the management he planned on teaching in that Dojo and that Jesus taught him.

'The Napa guys told him he was confused (their polite way of warning the man against such action), but not wanting to miss a show, they told the man they would close early just to watch and that he must not know the owner, which is nobody to play with.. Needless to say, the police pulled him out of the dumpster behind my Karate Dojo where he was neatly placed. Semper Fi to all my Marine brothers. The karate student in the white is also a Marine Sgt. and a brand new Black Belt. Never get stupid with a Marine, you could get jacked up and have your clock stopped.'"

Please Youtube do not delete this video as this is the only means to bring this criminal to justice. For those watching this, please let us bring this man to justice.

**BREAKING UPDATE**

This sick individual's address has been discovered:

Bobby Joe Blythe

Address:
989 Robin Court
Hanford, CA 93230

Home: 559-584-9315
Fax: 559-584-2005
Cell: 559-381-3617

Please contact your local news stations and the authorities!"

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Holy shit. This is one of the most chilling things I have ever seen.

If this story ever gets made into a movie or a book, I think it could be really interesting if put in the right hands and given the appropriate angle. What a travesty.

EDIT: Shoot. Didn't realize i don't have any more points.


written by griefer_queafer  | 3 months 1 week ago | CH
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griefer_queafer cannot award a quality point for this post because griefer_queafer does not have enough Power Points - ignoring quality request by griefer_queafer. (You can always purchase more Power Points.)


written by siftbot  | 3 months 1 week ago | CH
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you should see the conversation and uprising this is causing on both Reddit and Digg
http://www.reddit.com/r/WTF/comments/9chmm/mentally_challenged_man_beaten_to_death_nsfw_lets/
http://digg.com/world_news/Mentally_Challenged_Man_Beaten_to_Death


written by nomino  | 3 months 1 week ago | CH
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>> ^griefer_queafer:
quality

Holy shit. This is one of the most chilling things I have ever seen.

I am so fucking mad right now. This did not have to happen.


written by 2pornot2p  | 3 months 1 week ago | CH
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>> ^nomino:
you should see the conversation and uprising this is causing on both Reddit and Digg
http://www.reddit.com/r/WTF/comments/9chmm/mentally_challenged_man_beaten_to_death_nsfw_lets/
http://digg.com/world_news/Mentally_Challenged_Man_Beaten_to_Death


Just read the early stuff. After a while, it becomes a reddit/digg dick-measuring contest. Thank god for the sift.


written by griefer_queafer  | 3 months 1 week ago | CH
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I just watched a man being murdered.


written by blankfist  | 3 months 1 week ago | CH
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>> ^blankfist:


I just watched a man being murdered.


Me too.
Murdered for sport.
By a bunch of Marines.
"Semper Fi" my ass


written by aspartam  | 3 months 1 week ago | CH
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*quality


written by aspartam  | 3 months 1 week ago | CH
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Boosting this quality contribution up in the Hot Listing - declared quality by aspartam.


written by siftbot  | 3 months 1 week ago | CH
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Charge those two for murder.


written by Drax  | 3 months 1 week ago | CH
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>> ^Drax:
Charge those two for murder.


What about the people who stood there and did NOTHING? They should be charged with manslaughter or something.


written by nomino  | 3 months 1 week ago | CH
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I don't understand why they thought that was necessary.

That's a cold-hearted cruelty I've never seen before.

The closest thing I can think of is this guy in my home town who used to like to get into fights with people and try to bite their noses off.


written by rougy  | 3 months 1 week ago | CH
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Watching that just broke my heart.


written by lucky760  | 3 months 1 week ago | CH
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>> ^nomino:
>> ^Drax:
Charge those two for murder.


What about the people who stood there and did NOTHING? They should be charged with manslaughter or something.


True enough, that was my knee jerk post. No matter what they where told before hand someone should have intervened when the guy said, "Take this mother fucker" if they hadn't arleady.

This is completely fucked up. How much shit like this happens that DOESN'T end up on tape?

Also, Id like to know the story on how this tape got to the net.

edit-Christ I just read the guy posted the video himself.. WTF? If that's true, the mentaly handicaped person is the one who lived.


written by Drax  | 3 months 1 week ago | CH
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I think that everyone in that room could be charged with conspiracy to murder, or at least aiding and abbetting a murder.


written by rougy  | 3 months 1 week ago | CH
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I'm not watching this. I'm sorry, this is just wrong.


written by kymbos  | 3 months 1 week ago | CH
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I considered posting this more than 2 hours ago, but decided against it. I don't know what the verdict was on whether or not the dude was actually killed because of this, but regardless.. does this belong on the sift? Actions have already been taken, local authorities informed, etc. Perhaps a sift talk post with a link to the reddit page would have sufficed. There is good, sober conversation going on there.


written by EndAll  | 3 months 1 week ago | CH
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Tags for this video have been changed from 'wrong, mentally, challenged, beaten, death' to 'wrong, mentally, challenged, beaten, death, master Jesus Christ' - edited by MrFisk


written by siftbot  | 3 months 1 week ago | CH
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^Yes, this is acceptable; it's not just a "death porn" video.


written by lucky760  | 3 months 1 week ago | CH
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saddest,most horrifying moment "ok..ok..you got me,you got me"
i have dealt with marines.
most were awesome,professional soldiers..marines.
then you would run into a marine where something must have broke in them during training.
made you a bit uneasy around them.
i am afraid of noone,but a crazy person?
they scare the bejesus out of me.
a crazy person has no boundaries,no point of control.
the mentally ill person was not the crazy one.
i know marines...that was no marine.
he was a crazy person.
god..this video makes me feel like weeping.


written by enoch  | 3 months 1 week ago | CH
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If I posted this gruesomeness, I'd be banned.


written by MrFisk  | 3 months 1 week ago | CH
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Fucking animals. This made me sick. From the beginning this could have gone in a direction to the extreme opposite. They could have shown this obviously mentally challenged man some compassion by humouring him and giving him some compassionate human interaction by listening to him and befriending him. Alternatively they could have simply shown him the door in a polite manner.

One thing I will never understand is how someone could do this to another. Just another reason why I find it impossible to believe in a compassionate God, right now I want the vengeful bastard from the Old Testament to come collect blood in retribution. People like this don't deserve to exist. There is no punishment for people like this, and if Hell does exist, it's still not enough.


written by liverpoolfc  | 3 months 1 week ago | CH
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I also considered posting this some 8 hours ago - and decided against it. This coming from someone who argued that http://www.videosift.com/video/Faces-Of-Death should have stayed. I even looked at the FAQ again, and since this was neither a news piece nor a lengthy documentary, it would've been against the rules. But I guess lucky's already voted for it, so we're making an exception this time, aren't we?


written by EDD  | 3 months 1 week ago | CH
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i think the importance has over-ridden VS rules.
getting the word out,passing the information along is important.
this happened in 1984.
thats 25 years where these sadistic and fatal actions took place.
25 years of no justice.
is it real? did this actually happen?
i would rather be on the side of enthusiasm rather than be cautious and allow this to go un-noticed.
sometimes you have to look horror in the face in order to battle it.


written by enoch  | 3 months 1 week ago | CH
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Felt very strange 'upvoting' something like this... extremely disturbing.


written by Januari  | 3 months 1 week ago | CH
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Upvoting the cause, not the actions.


written by liverpoolfc  | 3 months 1 week ago | CH
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>> ^liverpoolfc:
Upvoting the cause, not the actions.


I hope that goes without saying. If that wasn't the case, we'd all be as guilty as the people who were in the room and did nothing.


written by nomino  | 3 months 1 week ago | CH
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Two things stopping me watching or voting for this:

1) I would rather not have the image of someone being beaten to death in my head
&
2) We've reached our data allowance at work so it'd cost 15c a Mb to watch it.


But from reading about what it contains it sounds pretty darn disgusting.

The reddit thread has a lot of cyber investigation going on trying to track down those involved.

It would seem that Bobby Joe Blythe posted this video with great pride. And has another video of what he did to the person who fought this man afterwards because he took 'too long' to down him.


What a disgusting individual, and what disgusting individuals all who were there.

It will be interesting to see if this turns out to be some sick hoax however as it's quite odd this coming out like this now...

Also, there are some reports (although it would seem only from BJB) that the man survived this and ended up in a mental institution.


written by spoco2  | 3 months 1 week ago | CH
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Someone on the reddit page said that they knew of this incident for a while and claimed that the supposedly mentally challenged man was just high on drugs. I'm too lazy to find the comment, but it's in the linked reddit thread nomino posted.


written by EndAll  | 3 months 1 week ago | CH
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Not watching.


written by nach0s  | 3 months 1 week ago | CH
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>> ^nomino:
>> ^liverpoolfc:
Upvoting the cause, not the actions.


I hope that goes without saying. If that wasn't the case, we'd all be as guilty as the people who were in the room and did nothing.


Was responding to Januari who felt weird upvoting.


written by liverpoolfc  | 3 months 1 week ago | CH
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>> ^nach0s:
Not watching.


Thanks for the annoncement. We don't care


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This video has already declared quality - ignoring quality request by nibiyabi.


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*dead


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This published video has been declared non-functional; embed code must be fixed within 2 days or it will be sent to the dead pool - declared dead by sepatown.


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*dead


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Only published or personal queue videos may be flagged dead - ignoring dead request by finch451.


written by siftbot  | 3 months 1 week ago | CH
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someone with superpowers *dead this up so we can get a new source


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Invocations (dead) cannot be called by sillma because sillma is not privileged - sorry.


written by siftbot  | 3 months 1 week ago | CH
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ah, hehe


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*dead


written by berticus  | 3 months 1 week ago | CH
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Only published or personal queue videos may be flagged dead - ignoring dead request by berticus.


written by siftbot  | 3 months 1 week ago | CH
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non-youtube aiternative: http://www.livevideo.com/video/520A80743A794A2DA4FA4E3B438A9789/bobby-joe-blythe-lets-his-blac.aspx


written by deputydog  | 3 months 1 week ago | CH
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since it's dead i haven't watched it, but i just want to remind people of this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bystander_effect

but of course that doesn't apply to you, right?


written by berticus  | 3 months 1 week ago | CH
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>> ^KamikazeCricket:
>> ^nach0s:
Not watching.


Thanks for the annoncement. We don't care


Thanks for the denouncement. We don't care.


written by KnivesOut  | 3 months 1 week ago | CH
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I'm pretty sure that this is as close to snuff as anything we've ever had on here. Scary stuff.


written by gwiz665  | 3 months 1 week ago | CH
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It seems like the outrage level is high enough that law enforcement is getting involved, and I wouldn't be surprised if the media doesn't pick this up. They love featuring shit from the internet.

Until these assholes are properly arrested, arraigned, prosecuted, convicted, confined, and sodomized, let's all just focus on this:



Edit: from the Reddit postings, it's unclear whether the victim survived or not.


written by KnivesOut  | 3 months 1 week ago | CH
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So let me get this straight...

When video evidence of a crime being committed surfaces, the correct course of action is not to deliver it to the authorities but rather to post it to aggregate video sites under the self-imposed guise of a justice-brandishing vigilante.


written by PHJF  | 3 months 1 week ago | CH
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Argh... I don't know. I'm highly disturbed, bothered, depressed or name-your-adjective by this video. I'm so bothered that to a degree I wish I could replace my upvote with a no-vote after watching a second time. This video is something to me personally that's newsworthy and should be seen by those who are willing, especially as details and context come forward, but is so gut-wrenchingly awful and horrific I'm not sure I should have supported it with a vote.

Then again, as always, I am glad of the reasoned and intelligent conversation to be found on the Sift. Thanks to folks like nomino, EndAll, and MrFisk bringing these things to light. It may not be a happy topic, but an important one.

I hope those guys rot in jail.


written by Kevlar  | 3 months 1 week ago | CH
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^ You should sift that, KnivesOut. Guaranteed #1


As for the black belt "Marine" who decided to go past winning the "match", there's probably about 3 million other black belts -and more than a couple Marines- out there that want to kick your ass. You have no honour.


written by Payback  | 3 months 1 week ago | CH
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Discussion involving the son of the attacker(ColdFire$):
http://www.bullshido.net/forums/showthread.php?t=88535&page=45


written by ElJardinero  | 3 months 1 week ago | CH
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>> ^rougy:
I don't understand why they thought that was necessary.

Pure ego. Martial arts in the US is full of charlatans and egotists. Blythe created a world for himself in which his ego reigned supreme by opening a dojo. Someone came along and threatened his personal self image and he reacted murderously.

Aaaaand, I didn't watch the video. I can't watch that. I believe it's important that it exists but there's no reasonable excuse for me to watch it.


written by TheFreak  | 3 months 1 week ago | CH
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The story behind this is that the handicapped guy kept going around the mall and trying to steal stuff. After that he decided that with help of Jesus he will become a karate master and decided to take on the local karate club. People were pissed at him and naturally beat him up.

Also, he can not be sued because you can sue only withing a specific period of time after an incident. Which might be 10-15 years. Also, the guy didn't die.


written by fjules  | 3 months 1 week ago | CH
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Any real karate student knows to have more respect... karate isn't about ego and violence, it's about respect and defense.


written by gwiz665  | 3 months 1 week ago | CH
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I contacted the Hanford police department and the guy that answered the phone said they are looking into it. I also googled and all I saw were people who were posting it so I emailed nbc nightly news with the link. If this isnt being persued for prosecution then I have a real problem.


written by jdbates  | 3 months 1 week ago | CH
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>> ^TheFreak:
>> ^rougy:
I don't understand why they thought that was necessary.

Pure ego. Martial arts in the US is full of charlatans and egotists. Just the fact that this man uses his former Marine background as a resume indicates that he lacks any substantial success in his life. He's created a world for himself in which he's important by opening a dojo. Someone came along and threatened his personal self image and he reacted murderously. I'd guess he had very low self esteem due to domestic violence until he joined the Marines and found an identity.

Aaaaand, I didn't watch the video. I can't watch that. I believe it's important that it exists but there's no reasonable excuse for me to watch it.


Well said...


written by AgentSmith  | 3 months 1 week ago | CH
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A post on bullshido says it was in dumfries virginia.


written by jdbates  | 3 months 1 week ago | CH
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After reading several forum discussions on this I think it's safe to say that almost every level of law enforcement and all major media outlets have been informed.

The only info that seems to be missing is the victim's name.


>> ^fjules:
The story behind this is that the handicapped guy kept going around the mall and trying to steal stuff. After that he decided that with help of Jesus he will become a karate master and decided to take on the local karate club. People were pissed at him and naturally beat him up.


Yeah... naturally. If he did any of the things that they said, he clearly deserved being almost stomped to death.
Go back to liveleak.


written by ElJardinero  | 3 months 1 week ago | CH
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Ok, for those of you who are curious but don't want to watch:

Snarky, sarcastic comments from Sensei White Trash.

Karate Kid-ish statements from the victim.

Blackbelt Marine attacks victim, I would say almost unprovoked, the victim claimed to be just doing a non-contact exposition, not a fight. The victim obviously brought a SuperSoaker to a gunfight. What he says is so out in left field, you don't need to know Karate to realize he's full of shit.

There is actually a fight, and the victim actually gets a couple decent hits in, but more dumb luck and speed than anything.

The victim gets pushed into a corner, and shoved by a couple students, but he is still on his feet, and DOES "say uncle". The fight should have ended there.

Blackbelt Marine still hammers away at the victim, knocking him down, possibly unconscious.

THEN THE PIECE OF SHIT, DISHONOURABLE, FUCKTARD STARTS HEAD STOMPING THE VICTIM.

Finally BM gets called off by the REST OF THE STUDENTS, not the Sensei, who is a bullshit fucktard in his own right for letting it go that far.

Then we are treated to a closeup of the 1/4 inch wide, non-stop trail of blood from where they dragged the victim outside.


written by Payback  | 3 months 1 week ago | CH
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I saw this on LL and considered posting it; never pursued it. The idea of sharing something so mind-boggling lost to the raw animalistic brutality.

There's NO reason for these people not to be punished. "Law Enforcement" has all they need for this one.


written by Rotty  | 3 months 1 week ago | CH
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That black belt was a pussy. What they did to that man was despicable. Even in street fights, people know when to call the fight, and usually the crowd wants to make sure no one has to be sent to the hospital.

These assholes have probably gone on to have happy, productive lives, with families, jobs, vacations, weddings, and all the other joyous occasions we all want to enjoy in life. I wish I could go back in time to every happy moment those fucktards had in their lives since 1984 and play this video on a projector, just to constantly remind them of what they did (or allowed to happen).

And I know "violence is never the answer", but I wouldn't mind taking on that pussy black belt and teaching him a thing or 2 about a thing or 2. He wouldn't last 5 minutes where I grew up.


written by Throbbin  | 3 months 1 week ago | CH
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I really hope the rumors of him not having died are true... I don't want to think I just watched a snuff film.


written by potchi79  | 3 months 1 week ago | CH
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>> ^potchi79:
I really hope the rumors of him not having died are true... I don't want to think I just watched a snuff film.


Did you not hear the "death-rattle" ? That was one of the most disturbing things I've ever seen/heard.


written by EndAll  | 3 months 1 week ago | CH
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You fucking hypocrites.

This is the definition of a snuff film. They filmed the murder of a 'homeless' man (stomping his throat, in addition to other injuries). The whole event was for sport and using someone who wouldn't be missed.

They filmed the blood trail.

It sat underground for decades probably as a snuff film.

How the fuck is this allowed? But you have issues with a car wreck video.
He was dead by the time he hit the back door with that broken trachea.


written by joedirt  | 3 months 1 week ago | CH
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^ that.

I'm disappointed to see this here.

A sifttalk post would have been sufficient.

"Also, he can not be sued because you can sue only withing a specific period of time after an incident. Which might be 10-15 years." - fjules
There's no statute of limitations on murder (or attempted murder/manslaughter).


written by pho3n1x  | 3 months 1 week ago | CH
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^ i actually agree with you (joedirt), that this is basically snuff - but i don't think anyone is a hypocrite - they just want to help the cause of seeing justice served. but to be honest, posting this video here and discussing it isn't doing anything. hundreds of people had already informed their local authorities before this was posted.

i think the importance has over-ridden VS rules.
getting the word out,passing the information along is important.

--

sometimes you have to look horror in the face in order to battle it.


in this case, all we've done is look horror in the face.


written by EndAll  | 3 months 1 week ago | CH
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apparently he lived and didn't press charges the following day. i hope that is true. that is what the black belt's son is saying on some message board:

http://www.bullshido.net/forums/showthread.php?t=88535&page=45

it doesn't change the fact that this is the scariest seen i've seen in a long time, but snuff film is probably not true. attempted snuff film i'd say.


written by phelixian  | 3 months 1 week ago | CH
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>> ^phelixian:
apparently he lived and didn't press charges the following day. i hope that is true. that is what the black belt's son is saying on some message board:

http://www.bullshido.net/forums/showthread.php?t=88535&page=45

it doesn't change the fact that this is the scariest seen i've seen in a long time, but snuff film is probably not true. attempted snuff film i'd say.


Just because his son said so, doesn't make it true.


written by Throbbin  | 3 months 1 week ago | CH
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I've read all the comments but I haven't watched the video.

Can anyone provide a reasonable justification for this being here, outside of satisfying morbid curiosity?


written by ReverendTed  | 3 months 1 week ago | CH
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Of course this clown dick bragged about being a Marine. What an asshole.


written by SpaceOddity  | 3 months 1 week ago | CH
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Sounds like snuff to me. I won't be watching. It's not something I like seeing on the sift.


written by Maze  | 3 months 1 week ago | CH
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Is there any evidence that the retard was actually killed? The knee drop to the back of the neck was bad, however he was still moaning and moving around some. If he didn't die this is the biggest non-issue I have ever seen on VS. If he did die why is this not snuff? BS double standard. I have 6 snuff films lined up for sifting now that we have apparently lifted the ban. I feel bad for the Mongoloid, but happy that my reign of snuff shall begin. Let the wanton violence commence.


written by zombieguerilla  | 3 months 1 week ago | CH
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based on the whizzing sounds it seems like he broke the guy's neck and was suffocating on his own blood.
instead of turning the guy to the side, they dragged him out on his back means that he drowned in his own blood.

THIS IS A MURDER!


written by mxxcon  | 3 months 1 week ago | CH
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No, apparently this is snuff.




written by MrFisk  | 3 months 1 week ago | CH
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Wait... why is it the fat white guy's fault? The guy doing the beating killed him. He clearly lost control and couldn't stop. No one was egging him on, no one told him to stomp on the guy's head.
Sure, no one did shit afterward but don't gimme that nonsense like everyone in the room is a brutal murderer.


written by HenningKO  | 3 months 1 week ago | CH
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>> ^HenningKO:
Wait... why is it the fat white guy's fault? The guy doing the beating killed him. He clearly lost control and couldn't stop. No one was egging him on, no one told him to stomp on the guy's head.
Sure, no one did shit afterward but don't gimme that nonsense like everyone in the room is a brutal murderer.


That "fat white guy" lured him to the dojo, set up the match, let the brutality occur, issued the command to have the body taken out back, filmed the blood trail, then uploaded it to his Youtube account 25 years later. You don't need to pull the trigger to be a murderer. Charles Manson, Hitler, and Judas are so reviled yet who did they kill?


written by poolcleaner  | 3 months 1 week ago | CH
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Awesome! The cops are finally involved. Hope the poor guy gets some justice... http://www.kmph.com/global/story.asp?s=10973483


written by razzyl  | 3 months 1 week ago | CH
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To the sift... regardless of the import of this video. It is a snuff film and should be removed. I'm sorry but there has to be a line drawn in the sand somewhere. Let some other site carry this disturbing monstrosity of a video because it shouldn't be on this one.
Albrite30


written by albrite30  | 3 months 1 week ago | CH
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>> ^razzyl:
Awesome! The cops are finally involved. Hope the poor guy gets some justice... http://www.kmph.com/global/story.asp?s=10973483


Fuckin A.


written by Throbbin  | 3 months 1 week ago | CH
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I have emailed this police department to encourage some action. Here are the details in case anyone else wants to follow it up and remind them that we do care about people...

Region 11
Carlos Mestas 559/585-4731 559/585-4710 Hanford Police Department
Term 3-11 425 N. Irwin Street
Hanford, CA 93230
Email: cmestas@ci.hanford.ca.us


written by dapper  | 3 months 1 week ago | CH
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also... thanks to Nomino for starting this off. It gives me cause for hope when we can show that even in our anonymous offices and bedrooms, we can come together and still care for the needy.


written by dapper  | 3 months 1 week ago | CH
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Ok.

Here we go.

Two main guys charged with murder, then the ones who dragged him out, also summarily charged with murder.

The rest who stood there doing nothing? Accomplices to murder, I would say they would be charged with Murder as well. At least conspiracy to commit, or maybe accessory to murder.

Did I mention how utterly stupid this is?

Also:


United States

The U.S. criminal code makes aiding and abetting a federal crime itself a crime[1]:

(a) Whoever aids, abets, counsels, commands, induces or procures the commission of an offense, is punishable as a principal.
(b) Whoever willfully causes an act to be done which if directly performed by him or another would be an offense, is punishable as a principal.

A person may be convicted of aiding and abetting any act made criminal under the code. The elements of aiding and abetting are, generally:

(1) guilty knowledge on the part of the accused ( the mens rea);
(2) the commission of an offense by someone; and
(3) the defendant assisted or participated in the commission of the offense (the actus reus).
- Wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Accessory_(legal_term)#United_States

Those people are subject to murder charges.


written by NordlichReiter  | 3 months 1 week ago | CH
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4:52

That is murder, right there. No jury in the world wouldn't convict a person for the soulless shit that fail of a HB did right there. If the dudes still breathing, atemped, what ever. That mar the far king piece of sht had won about a minute before that knee kick, and carried on just because his teste rage had to avenge the dude knocking him down earlier. Not a human who is safe to, or deserves to, be part of the general population. I hope he dies alone in a box.


written by Gabe_b  | 3 months 1 week ago | CH
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So, you posted a snuff video? Why is most of the sift okay with this? It's insane that we have rules against members posting porn, but not lengthy graphic videos of people being murdered.

Of course I realize nearly all of the people who up-voted don't see it as entertainment, but are outraged by the event. And if this were presented as a news story that would be completely valid.

Still, I think anyone who would want to watch this, knowing it's contents, and knowing damn well that they will never personally do anything to bring about justice, is motivated by some morbid curiosity. And we shouldn't be encouraging that. Really it is disgraceful that it hasn't been removed yet.


written by entr0py  | 3 months 1 week ago | CH
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>> ^KamikazeCricket:
>> ^nach0s:
Not watching.


Thanks for the annoncement. We don't care


And we don't care that you don't care. So.. there.


written by gwiz665  | 3 months 1 week ago | CH
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Alright, enough is enough. The police are involved in the case now, so we don't have to propagate this anymore. *discuss

This is snuff. We have set precedent earlier. There is no newsworthiness in the embedded video other than as documentation, and we've discarded that before. See http://www.videosift.com/video/Sknyliv-airshow-disaster-Anniversary


written by gwiz665  | 3 months 1 week ago | CH
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This video is being sent to Sift Talk for discussion - discuss requested by gwiz665.


written by siftbot  | 3 months 1 week ago | CH
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It's not snuff if your avatar has nice tits.


written by MrFisk  | 3 months 1 week ago | CH
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This may be newsworthy, but so are the Al Qaeda beheading videos. If this stays, then we should start sifting other horrible snuff vids, and I certainly don't want to see that... unless the poster's avatar has nice tits, of course.


written by blankfist  | 3 months 1 week ago | CH
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See, the rule as it stands is ambiguously written, and so we're going to have to have a discussion like this every single time a new video gets posted -- until we get a more definitive ruling on what is and is not acceptable on the sift. I think the rule needs to be rewritten and made much more clear so we don't need to have the exact same debate every couple of weeks.


written by Sarzy  | 3 months 1 week ago | CH
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I agree with blankfist. What happened to this poor guy is newsworthy, but the video itself doesn't have any larger meaning. Unfortunately people get murdered every day, for all sorts of awful reasons. Now that the police are involved, keeping this video here becomes questionable.

I can also see a reason for keeping it: The video itself has shown the power of internet video. However, I don't think that's a good enough reason to keep it, because the power of internet video is already pretty well established. That's just my opinion.

Just to be clear, I still think the death of Neda should stay, because her death has become symbolic of the Iranian struggle for freedom, just as much as the Burning Monk became a symbol of the Vietnam War. Neither deaths are ordinary, if you'll excuse my usage of "ordinary" in this case. History has already judged both deaths as significant in the course of human events. It wasn't me, or you, or any one person here who did that. The world sometimes collectively reacts the same way to events, and especially to images of events, and before you know it, it's in the history books. Like it or not, history works that way sometimes.

Anyway, this poor dude's death, however sad it may be, probably doesn't belong here because it doesn't hold any special historical significance, especially since the police are now involved with the case. Now it has become just another random American homicide, which happened to be caught on video. So if someone's going to tally votes, count me in the "remove" column.


written by kronosposeidon  | 3 months 1 week ago | CH
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>> ^Payback:
As for the black belt "Marine" who decided to go past winning the "match", there's probably about 3 million other black belts -and more than a couple Marines- out there that want to kick your ass. You have no honour.


I can attest to that.


written by MarineGunrock  | 3 months 1 week ago | CH
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>> ^griefer_queafer:
Holy shit. This is one of the most chilling things I have ever seen.


I've seen worse in MMA, honestly. If you guys think this is bad...you don't know much about the sick, twisted world you live in.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wmPI0wnv01g


written by imstellar28  | 3 months 1 week ago | CH
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/3_guys_1_hammer = why we should have the death penalty.


written by gwiz665  | 3 months 1 week ago | CH
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So, apparently, now there is good and bad snuff and videosift allows good snuff.


written by MrFisk  | 3 months 1 week ago | CH
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You downvoters should read into what they did. I would shoot them myself, given the opportunity.
>> ^gwiz665:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/3_guys_1_hammer = why we should have the death penalty.


Should I tally votes or just get it over with and discard? I'll give it until tomorrow, then I'll count it up. Someone could bring in dag, if you want, but it's a pretty clear case.


written by gwiz665  | 3 months 1 week ago | CH
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^If you tally the votes now, I think you'll find 67 people in favor of keeping the video, and three for discarding it. Pretty straight forward if you ask me.


written by nomino  | 3 months 1 week ago | CH
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^That's just not true. Plenty have posted objections and voted up anyway.

I found these that explicitly through comments were against having this rule
EndAll, MrFisk, joedirt, phoen1x, ReverendTed, Maze, albrite30, entr0py, blankfist, Sarzy, kronosposeidon, gwiz665.
Plus the downvoters, I presume, but I haven't counted them in.

If this is allowed to stay, the snuff rule is as good as null and void - we have discarded other sifts which were no worse than this.

"People will decide by votes" no they won't, that's not the way it works. The rule is there to suspend any voting on something like this.


written by gwiz665  | 3 months 1 week ago | CH
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I say we keep it - as its exposure on the Internet on sites like this has served a noble purpose.


written by dag  | 3 months 1 week ago | CH
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Way to collect evidence against yourselves, you evil jackasses.

If you want to serve a "noble purpose", replace the embed with this one, an update as of August 22nd...



I hope they catch them.


written by schmawy  | 3 months 1 week ago | CH
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Allowing it, will open the flood gates as this creates a bad precedent. That's the last I'm gonna say. Do as you will.


written by gwiz665  | 3 months 1 week ago | CH
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I'm just going to *return this, even though I'd rather see it discarded. Not enough people here spoke decisively against it, IMHO, and it's been languishing here in Sift Talk for over 4 days now. It's time in purgatory is over.


written by kronosposeidon  | 3 months ago | CH
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Returning this video from Sift Talk - return requested by kronosposeidon.


written by siftbot  | 3 months ago | CH
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I had to downvote. I watched this for some reason not expecting to see actual death, and it has made me lose sleep ever since. I would rather this sort of death scene not be played out on the sift, but to each their own. This is just too much in my opinion.


written by inflatablevagina  | 2 months 3 weeks ago | CH
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this video just made my day. that dumb cunt got what he deserved. if i was the dojo owner i wouldve taken him and punched the fuck right in the throat after i was all done with him


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