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"Not a single drop of gasoline"

WHAT A DUMB CUNT!

You know how much more petroleum is wasted by converting to AC, transmitting to your house, then charing your car, then storing in DC batteries.

What an ignorant fuck, compared to refining oil, shipping gasoline to gas station, then filling up a car. Even with a horrible burn ratio in a combustion engine (most of the energy goes into heat and friction), your petroleum goes a ton further.

(Now if Tom Hanks had a video about his solar power plant in his backyard, this would be a different story, but CA steals all its power from other states like a big welfare mom.. and that power is mostly coal and oil.

>> ^joedirt:
"Not a single drop of gasoline"
WHAT A DUMB CUNT!
You know how much more petroleum is wasted by converting to AC, transmitting to your house, then charing your car, then storing in DC batteries.
What an ignorant fuck, compared to refining oil, shipping gasoline to gas station, then filling up a car. Even with a horrible burn ratio in a combustion engine (most of the energy goes into heat and friction), your petroleum goes a ton further.
(Now if Tom Hanks had a video about his solar power plant in his backyard, this would be a different story, but CA steals all its power from other states like a big welfare mom.. and that power is mostly coal and oil.


Here's the difference though...you have a petroleum based car and that is your only option...petroleum. You have an electric car and then your options are wide open...coal and oil? Sure...but your not limited to just that..solar, wind, nuclear, hydroelectric, hydrogen, manure, geothermal, etc... Some of these things such as wind or solar are things that you could conceivably generate yourself.

You drive that car up here in the Northwest, good chance that you are getting your energy from hydroelectric sources in the first place, making a truly electric car very enticing to those who live in this region.

Post the other parts please!

I guess my only problem is the range... overnight to recharge for just 100 miles. I drove down to NY from Boston today in my Prius on a third of a tank of gas... sounds like I couldn't have done that in this thing. I would have had to spend the night in CT and hopefully they have a plug by the parking space and it isn't raining...

I mean, don't get me wrong, I am all about alternatives to the gas-guzzlers (hence the Prius), but I think alternatives to hybrids have a LONG way to go. Personally, I'm hoping for one of those hydrogen cars in about 10 years.

Joedirt is mostly talking out his ass even if he does have some point in there somewhere.

An EV recharged from the existing US grid electricity emits about 115 grams of CO2 per km driven, (g(CO2)/km) whereas a conventional gasoline powered car emits 250 g(CO2)/km.

Also from a quick search it looks like California gets 30-50% from non-fossil fuels, most of the rest from natural gas (cleaner than the other fossil fuels) and 16-20% from coal.

I'd give Tom Hanks some AC propulsion, lemme tell you

>> ^joedirt:
"Not a single drop of gasoline"
WHAT A DUMB CUNT!
You know how much more petroleum is wasted by converting to AC, transmitting to your house, then charing your car, then storing in DC batteries.
What an ignorant fuck, compared to refining oil, shipping gasoline to gas station, then filling up a car. Even with a horrible burn ratio in a combustion engine (most of the energy goes into heat and friction), your petroleum goes a ton further.
(Now if Tom Hanks had a video about his solar power plant in his backyard, this would be a different story, but CA steals all its power from other states like a big welfare mom.. and that power is mostly coal and oil.


I'm not even going to start on how incorrect you are about relative efficiencies, but less than 2% of the US's electricity comes from oil, dude.

Sources of Electricity in the USA

>> ^joedirt:
"Not a single drop of gasoline"
WHAT A DUMB CUNT!
You know how much more petroleum is wasted by converting to AC, transmitting to your house, then charing your car, then storing in DC batteries.

As stated before, very little petroleum is wasted by conversion, do you think mechanics operate on petroleum? Comversion to electric uses less petroleum than one tank of gas I would bet. I'm assuming you meant the conversion of the vehicle, not the conversion of the energy source.

The electric grid is NOT petroleum based here in Cali., so the idea that you are using petroleum to power the grid, and then the car is just plain ignorant, you ignorant ....

What an ignorant fuck, compared to refining oil, shipping gasoline to gas station, then filling up a car. Even with a horrible burn ratio in a combustion engine (most of the energy goes into heat and friction), your petroleum goes a ton further.


Explain, goes a ton further than what? Please think in complete sentences, or at least complete thoughts. I can only assume you think the idea here is to take a small petroeum generator, refine and ship petroleum to the generator, run the generator to create AC power, transmit the power across a few hundred miles of lines, convert to DC (I like that you actually suggest charging the car and batteries with AC power in your thought process), and power the car and batteries. I ask, are you intentionally ignorant of the processes, or just retarded? Even if that was how it works, you ignore the fact that the fuel is refined for and shipped to both systems (generator and car), so remove that part of your equation. The motors used for electrical generation with petroleum are ridiculously more effecient than your car's combustion engine, probably by a factor of 4. The small amount of energy lost to heat in transmission and conversion to DC power is FAR less than the energy lost to heat by a car motor. Converting electricity to kenetic energy is far more effecient than combustion engines too. Even with ALL the losses you mention, which do not exist in every situation, electric vehicles are still ridiculously more effecient than petroleum vehicles.

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WHAT A DUMB CUNT!

Yes, in terms of CO2 emissions, an electric car (coal powered) beats the crap out of combustion engines. (CO2 is a bullshit problem when you consider what the warming of the north atlantic will do... CO2 absorbtion/out gassing from the atlantic will make car emissions look like your penis sitting on top of Mt. Everest)

In the US, 50% of electricity generation is coal. 20% is nuclear, 15% is natural gas, 6% is petroleum.

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